tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1484676726348897453.post2506022334786086921..comments2023-05-29T19:32:13.184-07:00Comments on On Web Mapping: Map Usability Fail Series: #5 Take the GIS out of Your Map!Skip Codyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07469193892205055366noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1484676726348897453.post-91643406996829369432011-12-05T03:16:59.289-08:002011-12-05T03:16:59.289-08:00I noticed your comment on Twitter and agree that t...I noticed your comment on Twitter and agree that there are a lot of bad sites out there but check this one out - they seem to have done a good job http://www.icoast.co.uk/Richardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12754188634885343817noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1484676726348897453.post-316546137245448002011-11-01T15:19:40.272-07:002011-11-01T15:19:40.272-07:00I think one of the problems with organizations off...I think one of the problems with organizations offering mapping applications such as these is that they often look to Google Earth for inspiration in what is acceptable, or worse, expected. Users can make a real mess out of their map in a hurry when clicking through the seemingly endless tree of layers offered in Google Earth. Just because you can turn it on, doesn't mean you should. So to your point on turning layers on that support the desired result of the product; developers need to have a clear vision of what exactly they are trying to accomplish and provide only what's necessary to the average user. (This is not to say that you can't have an advanced section somewhere for the rest of us nerds.)<br /><br />That said, it's clear that people seem to adopt Google UI as the de facto, easy to use, every day consumer UI for just about everything. And it would appear to me that developers often try to duplicate what they've done. This couldn't be further from the truth with regards to Google Earth and therefore should not be duplicated in many cases. (Google Maps on the other hand is pretty good as you state in the "What I like" section.)Russhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03505928810495641540noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1484676726348897453.post-14872863237617617322011-11-01T08:51:06.010-07:002011-11-01T08:51:06.010-07:00@falseNorthing Thanks for your comments, I really ...@falseNorthing Thanks for your comments, I really appreciate it. It is difficult to find the middle ground and sometimes impossible. In this case having two apps might be your answer. Remember the days when you bought a calculator and it came with a phone book size set of instructions. The power of such a devise is needed by 1% of the consumers where the other 99% just needed add, subtract and divide functions. Focusing on what the end user is doing is critical. Hiding the GIS is also a good way to approach the problem. GIS’ers will find the functionality and use it where a consumer will stop looking after about 1 min. They are very impatient and won’t put up with it. I would love to see your site and see how you have approached the problem. Have a great day and Happy Mapping.Skip Codyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07469193892205055366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1484676726348897453.post-25081336618217702232011-11-01T07:00:06.099-07:002011-11-01T07:00:06.099-07:00Best line: "A box of layers that is confusing...Best line: "A box of layers that is confusing and daunting to a consumer. One look and they will throw up their arms and go back to Facebook."<br /><br />Our site is better than some, but still geared towards the engineer/GIS/techy person. It's hard to find that middle ground without overwhelming them with different options.MicahWillihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09308729296364681245noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1484676726348897453.post-23460678093078927632011-10-31T03:57:48.490-07:002011-10-31T03:57:48.490-07:00Very good statement and very good tips!Very good statement and very good tips!Lars Brodersenhttp://www.geokommunikation.dknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1484676726348897453.post-32689346400843184222011-10-30T23:18:26.785-07:002011-10-30T23:18:26.785-07:00Amen, brother Skip. These kind of maps scream &quo...Amen, brother Skip. These kind of maps scream "I figured out how to make an ArcGIS Server Map!!", nothing more.rafa.https://www.blogger.com/profile/09202738851929352550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1484676726348897453.post-10799010386534346142011-10-29T12:43:56.642-07:002011-10-29T12:43:56.642-07:00Tine, I took a look at your post and your question...Tine, I took a look at your post and your question is a direct hit. These organizations need to keep in mind that the map is a tool and should be used as such. OSM, Google, Bing, ESRI can be used as base maps and still be useful. The idea is to figure who the end user is, what they want to accomplish and provide an interface that allows them to get it done. I would bet that the city above gets no more than 100 – 200 visits a month on this site when they should be getting thousands. The GIS department does not need another tool such as this map the consumer needs it and they are the one that the map needs to focused on. <br /><br />Just think that if this map provided a solution to the most common question at the front desk, whatever it might be, how much time it would save the counter person and let them do other pressing tasks.Skip Codyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07469193892205055366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1484676726348897453.post-88081823105067959522011-10-29T09:34:08.996-07:002011-10-29T09:34:08.996-07:00I couldn't agree more with you. I made this po...I couldn't agree more with you. I made this post (it's in danish but use google translate) http://digitaliser.dk/forum/1921722 or ask me.<br /><br />I will post a link to your message a little later in my thread. :-)<br /><br />vh<br />TineTine Müllerhttp://beta.findtoilet.dk/noreply@blogger.com